Editorial illustration for: Kevin Roose’s Exit From the Times Proves Publishers Can’t Keep Talent They Won’t Let Own Anything

Media

› Industry report

Kevin Roose’s Exit From the Times Proves Publishers Can’t Keep Talent They Won’t Let Own Anything

Media Trendlines — October 7, 2026

📰 Key Themes

  1. Kevin Roose has left The New York Times to start a media company with Casey Newton, after talks about an ownership structure inside the Times went nowhere.
  2. Larry Ellison’s control of Skydance rests partly on pledged Oracle shares, and Oracle is borrowing heavily to build data centers for OpenAI, which ties the future of CNN and CBS News to the AI build-out.
  3. Condé Nast will introduce interim CEO Mike Perlis to staff on Monday, taking over a leadership bench that thinned out under Roger Lynch.
  4. A trade show business that gives its conference content away and sells exhibitor space last grew nearly 50% during its earnout.
  5. New research argues that audience metrics carry the business interests of whoever built them, so newsrooms using off-the-shelf analytics end up optimizing for someone else’s model.

Jump to: 📺 Big Media Moves · 💡 Business Model Innovation · 📎 Also Noted · 🧭 Takeaways

📺 Big Media Moves

Kevin Roose’s Exit Shows the Times Can’t Hold Talent It Won’t Let Own Anything

Source: 🎙️ Channels with Peter Kafka — Peter Kafka with Kevin Roose

Kevin Roose spent nine years at The New York Times as a tech columnist and co-host of Hard Fork, the AI and tech podcast he built with Casey Newton and which the Times owns. He has now left. He and Newton have started their own company, made their first hires, and will launch Machine Gods, a weekly AI show with NPR, the week of October 19. Roose told Kafka the NPR partnership is about reach: listeners “who would never sort of proactively choose to listen to a tech podcast.”

Kafka asked the obvious question: why would the Times let a franchise it helped build walk out the door? Roose said the two sides “did talk with them about some sort of ownership structure,” but the founders wanted to try it on their own, and he thinks that kind of model “is really hard inside a newspaper.” He pointed to an older precedent. When he worked at All Things D, The Wall Street Journal let Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher build a conference business under their own LLC. It made them a lot of money and made the Journal a lot of money too. His warning for big publishers was blunt: a class of entrepreneurial journalists now has options a staff job can’t match, and “they’re not attracted by anything you’re offering.”

The Times is the strongest editorial brand in the country and has built one of the best subscription businesses in news. It still couldn’t find a structure that kept two people who had already shown they could build an audience. Roose is polite about it, but the lesson is plain. Salary, prestige and reach are no longer enough for the people who produce franchises, because those people can now get reach elsewhere, NPR included, and keep the equity. Publishers that want to hold on to this kind of talent need ownership tools ready before the conversation starts: revenue shares, joint ventures, spinouts with the parent keeping a stake. The All Things D deal worked because the Journal accepted that the talent would own part of what it built. Most newsrooms still treat that as a concession. It has become the cost of keeping them.


Larry Ellison’s Media Empire Is Financed by the AI Boom It Will Have to Cover

Source: 🎙️ Channels with Peter Kafka — Peter Kafka with the author of Vanity Fair’s Larry Ellison profile; Status ⚠️ Paywalled

On his first day running the combined company, David Ellison held a press conference on the Paramount lot with co-CEO Ynon Kreiz. Status asked him directly whether the company had been politicized in the year since he bought Paramount, given the UFC event on the White House lawn and a dinner honoring the administration that some CBS News staff reportedly refused to attend. His answer is behind Status’s paywall. By Wednesday, Status reported, Skydance stock was falling sharply.

The more useful conversation was on Kafka’s show, with the writer behind Vanity Fair’s new profile, “Inside Larry Ellison’s Wide Web of Power, Money and Politics.” Larry Ellison financed his son’s takeover, also holds a stake in U.S. TikTok through Oracle, and has made about a third of his Oracle shares available as collateral, alongside a $40 billion backstop for the Warner Bros. deal. Oracle’s stock has fallen from above $300 at its peak to around $140. Oracle is also borrowing heavily to build data centers, mostly for OpenAI. The writer called the whole arrangement “very rickety,” while stressing there is no sign of a margin call. On the “grand plan” question, the profile’s answer is that Larry Ellison has mostly “bought some stuff,” and that David’s real interest is movies, not news.

That answer should not reassure anyone. The risk to CNN and CBS News isn’t a coordinated plan to control information. It’s that the newsrooms’ budgets now depend, two steps removed, on whether OpenAI can pay for its compute. If the AI build-out stumbles, Oracle’s shares fall, the collateral behind Skydance weakens, and the cost cuts already planned get deeper. Editorial independence is usually argued as a question of politics. At Skydance it is just as much a question of debt, and the owner’s debt is tied to the biggest story those newsrooms cover.


Condé Nast’s Interim CEO Inherits a Thin Bench

Source: Status ⚠️ Paywalled — summary based on available preview only.

Outgoing CEO Roger Lynch will introduce interim chief Mike Perlis to Condé Nast staff on Monday at an in-person all-hands in the company’s event space at 1 World Trade Center, livestreamed globally. Status reports the leadership bench “has dramatically thinned out under Lynch,” and the rest of its scoop is paywalled. An interim CEO with few senior lieutenants is a caretaker. With search traffic shrinking and the portfolio already cut back, Condé’s permanent CEO search will show whether owner Advance still sees it as a growth business or as a set of brands to run for cash.

💡 Business Model Innovation

Nineteen’s Trade Shows Prove Free Content Sells the Floor

Source: A Media Operator — Christiana Sciaudone

Oliver Kinross built a chain of construction and property trade shows, including London Build and New York Build, by breaking the industry’s rules, mostly because its founders didn’t know them. Most organizers sell booths first and add speakers later. Oliver Kinross does the opposite. For its Melbourne launch, the team lined up 88 speakers in six weeks before selling a single stand, then took the audience it had built to exhibitors. Attendance and the conference content are free. The only paid upgrade is a VIP pass under £200 that buys a seat, good Wi-Fi and a place to leave your bag. New York Build has about 1,000 volunteer “ambassadors” promoting it.

Nineteen Group bought the company in 2023 and grew it nearly 50% during a two-year earnout. It launched Melbourne early and has Miami next. Nineteen’s chief, Alison Jackson, says her job is to stop her own team from “over-engineering it” into a conventional show, and that Nineteen is “stealing with pride.” The founders also drop things that don’t work, including an AI event that flopped. The model matters beyond events. It treats content as what brings the audience in and the room as what gets sold, which is how a publisher should think about every event it runs. Investors are paying high multiples for events right now because they look safe from AI. The organizers that earn those multiples will be the ones whose programming is good enough to fill the room without charging for it.


Your Analytics Dashboard Was Built for Someone Else’s Business Model

Source: The Audiencers — Sophie Chauvet

Drawing on her PhD research, Sophie Chauvet argues that audience metrics are not neutral readings of what readers want. They reflect the interests of whoever designed them. Platform analytics are built to maximize ad inventory and time on the network. A newsroom that sells subscriptions but runs on those tools is measuring itself with an instrument designed for a different business. The free analytics smaller outlets rely on are modeled on what the biggest outlets negotiated with platforms, so the scale advantage keeps compounding and pushes publishers toward consolidation. Chasing volume shows up in the copy: wire stories pasted in, articles machine-translated into several languages, headlines bent toward trending keywords. In the AI era, she warns, the suggestions are whole sentences, not just keywords.

Her conclusion isn’t to give up on analytics. It’s Goodhart’s law: once a metric becomes a target, it stops being a good measure. That makes it a business problem as much as a newsroom one. A publisher moving from traffic to subscriptions, or from anonymous reach to known readers, can’t make the switch while its dashboards still reward pageviews. Every number on the wall should come with two questions: who designed it, and what behavior does it reward?

📎 Also Noted

  • 🔹 Nine fell 4.4% to a record-low market value of A$1.04 billion on the eve of its annual meeting, and Mumbrella’s Unmade Index of Australian media stocks hit an all-time low with it. (Mumbrella)
  • 🔹 CNN, MS NOW and POLITICO go back to court Thursday seeking a preliminary injunction against the White House press ban, after the first order blocked it for only two weeks. (Status ⚠️ Paywalled)
  • 🔹 60 Minutes topped 10 million viewers for the first time this season under Bari Weiss and Nick Bilton. (Status ⚠️ Paywalled)
  • 🔹 Pubx’s ANZ chief Andrew Gilbert predicts agent-to-agent media buying could be “mainstream” as early as 2027 and is convening Australian marketers and agencies to prepare. (Mumbrella)
  • 🔹 Australian talk radio keeps bleeding: 2GB and 3AW lost listeners again and ABC Radio National posted its second-worst five-city breakfast ratings ever, while music station Smooth gained. (Mumbrella)
  • 🔹 AI-personalized job scams aimed at media and marketing workers are making it harder for real recruiters to get replies. (Mumbrella)

🧭 Takeaways

  • Ownership is now a retention tool. Talent that can build an audience can take it elsewhere. Publishers should have revenue shares, joint ventures and spinout terms ready before their best people start talking to NPR.
  • Editorial independence is a balance-sheet question. At Skydance, newsroom budgets sit downstream of Oracle’s debt and OpenAI’s compute bills. Readers and staff should watch an owner’s debt as closely as their politics.
  • Give the content away and sell the room. Nineteen’s fastest-growing shows build the program first and charge exhibitors for the crowd it draws. Publishers running events should invest in the program before the sales deck.
  • Audit the dashboard before changing the strategy. A subscription or known-reader business can’t run on metrics built to sell ad inventory. Decide what behavior you want to reward, then choose the numbers that measure it.